FOI 21279

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FOI 21279

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I would like to see some data on percentages of staff with the benefit who were in training at the material time.

On 24 February 2022 you clarified the following:

I would like to know how many people who had the job title Trainee Clinical Psychologist, Psychologist in Training or Probationer Clinical Psychologist or Probationary Clinical Psychologist had or were awarded MHO status (the benefit I refer to) around the time that I was training, in percentage terms (some data).

I am trying to see if the benefit was automatically given at that time to trainees or if each individual had to apply for it in later years. This is because the benefit was being phased out whilst I was in my training years, but I believe that prior to this, psychology trainees always had it given to them if they had these job titles. If we took the period 1992-1996 that would be adequate I would suggest.

My peers who trained in the 1980’s all seemed to leave at 55 with the benefit. I do understand that it ended in 1995 but from 1993 we were employed and some people from those training years now have it and some people don’t, even though they worked in the same organisation at the same time to exactly the same job description.

I have had replies from the Pension’s Agency that say I cannot have information about individuals but I am not asking for this, I would like to know if a group of staff (trainees) were automatically given the benefit in the same way that groups of nurses were (I understand that we were classed as an additional group rather than automatic, but I think whole cohorts on the various clinical psychology courses were given it due to their course leaders and employers at the time saying that this group (trainees) were eligible.) In other words, it wasn’t a fight down the line for each person separately.

Response

I can confirm that the NHS Business Services Authority (NHSBSA) holds information meeting the description specified in your request.

However, this data is not held in a way that would be extractable without the need to manually interrogate the data which would exceed the 18-hour limit set under Section 12 of the Freedom of Information Act.

Manually interrogating this data would include the following:

  • For the period in question (1992-1996), we would have to interrogate approximately 320,000 files, to ascertain:

  • If the job title referred to in your request is held on file. NHS Pensions utilise capacity and employment codes rather than job titles in the administration of NHS Pensions. Some job titles, however, may be recorded on file held on specific forms and documents

  • Whether the information you require with regards to the awarding of MHO status is evident from the information contained on the file.

I estimate that in order to search for the above information it would take approximately 10 minutes per case in order to ascertain if this information is held, totalling approximately 53,333 hours to complete your request.

Therefore, I estimate that the cost of complying with your request would exceed the non-central Government limit of £450. The limit has been specified in The Freedom of Information and Data Protection (Appropriate Limit and Fees) Regulations 2004 and represents the estimated cost of one person spending 18 hours in determining whether the NHSBSA holds the information, and locating, retrieving and extracting the information. Under Section 12 of the Freedom of Information Act, the NHSBSA is not obliged to comply with your request, and I will not be processing your request further.

MHO Status

Please find below some information which may be helpful to you with regards to the awarding of MHO status:

A Clinical Psychologist is not an automatic grade but is a member who may be eligible for MHO status under regulation R3 (14)(b). Whether the member started in the 1980s or 1990s prior to 06 March1995 they, or their employer, needed to apply for MHO status and the employer must complete and return a SM215. The SM215 was the form that confirmed the split of time as a % the member spent in the care and treatment of mentally ill patients.

Provided they spent sufficient time in the care and treatment of mentally ill patients (80% or more) then MHO status was granted.

If they were a trainee Clinical Psychologist and it was confirmed they spent 3 days with patients and 2 days in lectures, they would not meet the requirement to spend all or nearly all of their time in the care and treatment of mentally ill patients. If the % changed as they progressed through their training, the employer should have submitted a further application for MHO status and the procedure would be repeated as often as required, for example, at the beginning, but not exclusively, of each training year.

When they qualified and started their first role as a (junior) Clinical Psychologist before the abolition of MHO status, their (new) employer was required to submit another claim for MHO status and the SM215 procedure would be repeated. If the member met the criteria for the care and treatment of mentally ill patients for all or nearly all their time (80%), then MHO status would be granted. Any changes of employment/promotion would require the procedure to be repeated.

For members who had MHO status on or before 06 March 1995, they could have MHO status, provided they met the % requirement of spending time in the care and treatment of patients and hadn’t had a break in pensionable employment of 5 years or more at one time.

However, if a member started their training just prior to 06 March 1995 and didn’t have MHO status whilst training, then when they started their first role as a Clinical Psychologist after 06 March 1995, they could not be considered for MHO status as they did not hold MHO status before its abolition.

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Last Updated March 24, 2022, 14:51 (UTC)
Created March 24, 2022, 14:34 (UTC)